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Author Topic: Is it OK to ask where to buy stuff?  (Read 1628 times)
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« on: May 25, 2006, 06:15:38 AM »

I went to A.C. Moore the other day hoping that they would have what I want but they only had 2 oz jard of jacquard and 1 pound bag s of soda ash.

Where can I buy dyes and chemicals online?  I've bought stuff from Dharma but I'm wondering about other places.  I live on an island so going actual shopping is almost impossible so I need somewhere that doesn't cost an arm and a leg for shipping.

What about coops?

TIA Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2006, 06:26:23 AM »

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I went to A.C. Moore the other day hoping that they would have what I want but they only had 2 oz jard of jacquard and 1 pound bag s of soda ash.

Where can I buy dyes and chemicals online?  I've bought stuff from Dharma but I'm wondering about other places.  I live on an island so going actual shopping is almost impossible so I need somewhere that doesn't cost an arm and a leg for shipping.

What about coops?

TIA Cheesy


Actually, those jars in AC Moore are 5/8oz. Jacquard doesn't make 2 ounce bottles. You have few choices really. Dharma in California and ProCHem in Massachusetts. Dharma gets their stuff from Jacquard (aka Rupport, Gibbon and Spider). There is a place in Colorado too. They too get theirs from RGS--BUT when I talked to the owner of RGS, he didn't even know if the guy in Colorado is still in business (he is)--SO I would assume that their dyes aren't very fresh.

I personally like ProChem becuse of their assortment of color and their superior tech support.

To be honest, I have spoken to people in the industry and am considering doing either (or both): Running a line of discount pure mx dyes in pound containers at discount prices -OR- Offering ProCHEM through here.

I'm not quite there yet--BUT when I am--I'd appreciate any business you can provide as it would help support this forum.

I am not going to restrict discussion of providers--but I ask that all refrain from overt advertising!

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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2006, 02:51:52 PM »

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There is a place in Colorado too. They too get theirs from RGS--BUT when I talked to the owner of RGS, he didn't even know if the guy in Colorado is still in business (he is)--SO I would assume that their dyes aren't very fresh.

Either that, or they might be buying directly from a supplier such as Standard Dye, which sells to RG&S. Colorado Wholesale Dye sells rubine MX-B (reactive red 6), but I don't think RG&S does - or do they now?
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To be honest, I have spoken to people in the industry and am considering doing either (or both): Running a line of discount pure mx dyes in pound containers at discount prices -OR- Offering ProCHEM through here.

I plan to order from you, when that happens, and of course to list you among the dye suppliers on my site. Until then, ProChem is my favorite source, too.

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I am not going to restrict discussion of providers--but I ask that all refrain from overt advertising!

It seemd very counterproductive on the old fiber arts forum when mentioning a competing supplier became taboo. I still wonder who got banned in that kerfuffle. I understand that it must have been frustrating to be providing all that free technical support for Dharma's customers (they should be paying for their own customer support by providing more reliable technical info when their customers call them!), but it just seemed like it might have been more productive to somehow make that clearer to people.

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 02:54:59 PM »

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Where can I buy dyes and chemicals online?  I've bought stuff from Dharma but I'm wondering about other places.  I live on an island so going actual shopping is almost impossible so I need somewhere that doesn't cost an arm and a leg for shipping.

I maintain a list of different places around the world to buy dyes. Check this link: Sources for Dyeing Supplies. At this point ProChem's my favorite supplier in the US.

Consider getting your soda ash in four- or five-pound plastic jugs from the local  swimming pool supply store, or the swimming pool supply section of the hardware store. The child-proof caps are good, and the jugs help keep the soda ash from absorbing water from the atmosphere.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2006, 01:17:58 PM »

Yes, soda ash as swimmimg pool supply.....I'd like to do that...is PH UP always soda ash?? I looked at it but it didn't say the ingredients at the Home Depot here.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 11:33:48 AM »

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Yes, soda ash as swimmimg pool supply.....I'd like to do that...is PH UP always soda ash?? I looked at it but it didn't say the ingredients at the Home Depot here.


As long as it gets the pH up to where it should be, it doesn't matter. I've heard of using lye (not recommended).

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 12:08:51 PM »

Beware of pH increasers that contain sodium bicarbonate instead of carbonate. Someone tried to sell me some once, and that wouldn't work very well for dyeing, since bicarb isn't basic enough. Sodium carbonate produces a pH around 8, while sodium carbonate produces a pH around 11.

I thought that it was required by law to specify which of these is in the swimming pool chemicals. There's generally some fine print on the front label.

I've used TSP (trisodium phosphate) to adjust the pH, when I was out of sodium carbonate, but I don't really recommend it, because TSP is more hazardous to handle than soda ash is, and also because using too much will raise the pH higher than you want it. Soda ash is safer for making mistakes. No matter how much soda ash you put in, it won't produce a pH above 12.

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 04:39:29 PM »

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Consider getting your soda ash in four- or five-pound plastic jugs from the local  swimming pool supply store, or the swimming pool supply section of the hardware store.


I get 50 pound bags for around $27.50 USD
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