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« on: May 06, 2007, 06:55:33 AM »

 I would like to know what I can use- That's easy(easy being the key word) to block dye for direct application and LWI dyeing.
I tried some stuff from Wally World- Tulip FAshion Art Resist. It was easy to put on- I let dry for a day or two. Then dyed. When I rinsed- I had a very HARd time removing it. It worked- but not that great. Is there a easier way or thing to use?
I'm wanting to leave words/designs in some Tshirts.
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Ray
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 02:36:08 AM »

Hi, Ray.  Are you doing the words or designs first, or after you dye?  If you need an area free of dye, say a circle, what I have done in the past is mark the area, band it tightly (or tie with string around the outside, if you prefer), then cover with a plastic baggie and band again.  Leave that area up when you scrunch the shirt for LWI, and pour around it.  If I get a minute later, I will try to take pix of what I mean, but hopefully you get it.  The protected area sticks up due to the banding.  As you apply the dyes to the rest of the scrunched shirt, you just use care not to splash up into the tied area.  After the dye has sat and you have applied the soda ash and let it sit for the right time, remove the shirt, squeeze out the excess dye solution, rinse carefully.  Have your washer filled with water and synthrapol.  Carefully clip away the string or band, remove the baggie carefully, trying not to touch the undyed surface, then plunge the shirt into the washer and start it up.  the synthrapol should keep the dye from back-bleeding onto the undyed surface.

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2007, 04:42:30 AM »

There are a lot of different resists, and the problem with all of them is that they either wash out too easily, and thus come out in the dyebath or the soda ash presoak, or they are difficult to remove.

The ones that wash out too easily can be used without the soda ash presoak, preferably by adding soda ash to the dye itself and lightly spraying it on with a hand spray bottle. These include all of the water-soluble resists, such as Presist, Silk-paint brand water-soluble resist, aqua guttas, etc. I learned this the hard way when I tried combining DEKA silk resist with direct Procion MX dye application, ten years ago.

Elmer's Blue Glue Gel, which you can often find in the local drug store or grocery store, can be used as a resist. The bottle makes a handy applicator. In LWI, the glue may transfer to an adjacent section of fabric, whether placed face-to-face with it or by bleeding right through the back of the layer of fabric to which you've applied the glue. Do NOT use white glue: use only the blue Elmer's Washable School Gel. It can be difficult to get out; soak it for a while in cool water before washing in hot water, and it should all wash out. Here's a link to a page showing an example of a shirt that was dyed with LWI using Elmer's Washable Blue Glue Gel as a resist.

The best resist on cotton is wax, as it gives the best results, but only if you get it hot enough (230°F), without risking fire with hotter temperatures, and use good ventilation so your lungs are not damaged by the fumes. Wax that is not hot enough will not penetrate the fabric well enough to work, but the dangers are obvious and real. You can use beeswax or a mixture of beeswax and paraffin wax. The problem then is getting the wax out of the fabric. Some people find that their local dry cleaners can remove wax; mine do NOT, and leave me with a nicely dry-cleaned item that is still full of hard wax. I use a large pot to boil out my wax, with a bit of liquid soap (not detergent) in the water, letting the wax harden on top as the water cools, before removing the fabric from the water. I do not like using an iron to remove wax.

Some dyers are using soy wax, with different results. Some like it and get good results; others find that it does not work. I have not tried it yet. I believe that even at best it is less water-resistant than real wax, so keep that in mind and avoid lengthy dye baths. If you try soy wax, be sure to get the hardest type, the pillar candle wax, which is the type that the dye suppliers such as Dharma and ProChem sell. It can be washed out with hot tap water (140°F).

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 03:39:51 PM »

This is what I made. I had to outline the letters to get them to stand out a little better. But this will give you a idea of what I am trying.
The other thing I am trying is to put a VA on the front and a paw print on the back - Blue and white are the school colors.
Any ideas of how to do them?
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2007, 04:57:21 PM »

I think the most professional-looking results would come from combining that tie-dye job with a black-ink screenprint of the words you want to use. You can do the screenprinting before or after the dyeing.

If you only want to do one, screen-printing is a lot of trouble. You can make an inkjet iron-on transfer, with black ink, trimming off as much of the excess clear background as possible before doing the ironing. (Don't forget to reverse the writing!) In this case, do the dyeing first, leaving a large enough red or light-colored area in the middle to print on, as you did or as Judy described. The iron-on might partially resist the dye, so apply it only after finishing dyeing (and washing and drying). Iron-ons are not nearly as durable as screen printing, but they are easy to do. I think the ones with the transparent background work a lot better than the fancier opaque iron-ons, if the garment is going to be washed. Here's a link to an example of a shirt I did combining an inkjet iron-on with some very simple tied low water immersion dyeing.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2007, 04:17:36 PM »

How hard is it to screen print- something like that? I could possibly talk the Boss into buying some for our uniforms. If I could come up with a nice enough print.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2007, 05:21:45 PM »

I am just getting into screenprinting, and I'm having lots of fun with it! Of course, there are the traditional ways of screenprinting, which are probably awesome, but the way I'm doing it is more cost effective for me. Here's the instructions I found on making your own screenprints for little money:

http://community.livejournal.com/craftgrrl/3674467.html

I've been having so much fun with it, I just had to share.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2007, 09:56:25 PM »

I work in a petrochemical testing lab, and I think I could get wax out of fabric using methyl ethyl ketone, then isopropyl alcohol to rinse out the MEK.  Let me try this in the lab, under a fume hood--do not try this at home, kids.  If it works, I'll let y'all know. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2007, 08:04:11 AM »

Yes, Paula had good point in saying that resist is either hard to remove, but works well or vice versa.
I can say that my experience is the same.
I think that you should decide which method to use according to how many pieces you want to produce and how
complicated picture/writing you want to achieve.
Few pieces, easy picture - wax. (can be removed my boiling it out in old pot and subsequent washing)
Many pieces and complicated picture - screen print. Acrylic based colors usually don't want to take any bit of MX dye, so you can do it either before or after dyeing.
If you don't mind having dark color picture, you may consider using print paste made from MX dyes and some thickener.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 11:36:37 PM »

I am just getting into screenprinting, and I'm having lots of fun with it! Of course, there are the traditional ways of screenprinting, which are probably awesome, but the way I'm doing it is more cost effective for me. Here's the instructions I found on making your own screenprints for little money:

http://community.livejournal.com/craftgrrl/3674467.html

I've been having so much fun with it, I just had to share.


Hey Fiber, thanks for sharing that. I'm going to try it. Have any pics you care to share of this technique?
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 01:13:04 AM »

Wow, love that tutorial!!! I might even be able to do a simple version of that with at least my older DD!!!
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