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Author Topic: Tye-Dying the old-fashioned way?  (Read 1523 times)
mišek
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« on: July 02, 2007, 03:04:48 AM »

After reading for some time here on the forums, and also on the wiki, I decided to get myself some dye.
I went to 2 different shops, and I got dye - but the clothes have to be dyed in a 60˚ water. This seems kinda
like a problem to me. I haven't found anywhere on the net any links to classic dying, and so, I'm clueless. huh

So how do I do it? Do I just put the whole shirt into colored water, and how to prevent from being colored
completely?
Before trying real colors, I sprayed one of my shirts. It was like a test if I can make folds. The spiral didn't come
out exactly the way I wanted, but the chaos looks ok.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2007, 04:12:04 AM »

After reading for some time here on the forums, and also on the wiki, I decided to get myself some dye.
I went to 2 different shops, and I got dye - but the clothes have to be dyed in a 60? water.

What kind of dye is it? It could be a warm water fiber reactive dye, such as Remazol dye, which can be used via the modern multi-colored direct application methods if you just add more warmth (there are lots of different ways we can suggest to do this), or it could be an all-purpose or direct dye which will do better at even higher temperatures and work best in a cooking pot.

If you post what the name on the package is, we might be able to tell from that, or we might need to know what any ingredients or warning messages say, plus the instructions, to provide clues as to exactly what you have there.

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So how do I do it? Do I just put the whole shirt into colored water, and how to prevent from being colored completely? Before trying real colors, I sprayed one of my shirts. It was like a test if I can make folds. The spiral didn't come out exactly the way I wanted, but the chaos looks ok.

Old-fashioned traditional tie-dye involves tying the fabric and then immersing it for some time in a hot dyebath. For multiple colors using the original technique, you remove the fabric from the dyebath, rinse it out, untie it, then retie it another way and immerse it in a dyebath of a different color. There are many different beautiful effects possible, which you can see by looking for pictures of shibori or bandhani.

It is possible to do multicolor tie-dye with an immersion bath, but it's a laborious process. See these instructions:
How can I tie dye with all-purpose dye?   

Alternatively, you can squirt your highly concentrated dye solutions directly onto the fabric just as though you were using a cool-water fiber reactive dye, then wrap the wet fabric up in plastic wrap, and steam it for half an hour using the same method you would use to steam vegetables. Be sure to carefully wrap any pale-colored sections of the garment in plastic in such as way that they are not directly contacted by a darker region of the wet dyed fabric during the steaming process. If you are using a warm water fiber reactive dye, you will need to include soda ash or another ph-increasing chemical for this step, but not if you are using all-purpose or direct dye. If you are using all-purpose or direct dye, you will then want to apply a commerical cationic dye fixative to improve the washfastness of your dye, but this is not necessary with fiber reactive dye.

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 08:00:01 AM »

The color I have is Marabu FashionColor and Iberia Classic. I've found the link of Marabu (http://www.craftmaterialsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Marabu_Fashion_Color.html), but not of Iberia.

When I checked the manual it said that when the water has 80-90˚ the garment should be out in and left there to color for 20 mins. After that I should add some kitchen salt. The same thing with salt goes for Marabu.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2007, 11:07:54 AM »

I think that those are both either all-purpose or direct dye. They will work best at almost boiling temperature. It won't be sufficient to let the dye react in a warm place at 60°C; if you squirt the dye on at room temperature, you will certainly want to steam afterwards, as I described above.

All-purpose dye is better than no dye at all, but if you want more freedom and versatility in your dyeing, you'll want to find a source for fiber reactive dye. Most serious dyers purchase their dye by mail order. What country are you in? You might want to check my list of Sources for Dyeing Supplies Around the World.

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2007, 11:02:29 PM »

"Vegetable steaming" is OK, the main difference is that heat-set dyes are not allowing to dissolve in higher concentration, they are more willing to equalize it's shade, back-staining could be avoid by more careful handling during processing and wash-out.
Pre-treatment of the fabrics with salty water yields more intensive colors.
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