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« on: September 16, 2007, 02:32:14 AM »

Here is a project I finished yesterday:  I dyed a yard of fabric using LWI, then screen-printed a design over using dishwashing gel with bleach.

I really love using the gel because it is already thickened.  And using a screen means I get even coverage and a sharper image.

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2007, 05:08:01 AM »

Cool. I wish I could see this in person. On the digital image my eyes keep telling me the discharged designs are floating above a colored background.  shocked
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 11:33:35 PM »

Judy, I love the colors and the design is so crisp. I was thinking about screen printing and what it involves. What is it exactly?
BTW, visited your website, love your work. I could use some lessons from you.  wink
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 02:37:20 AM »

Thanks, Mishoga.  Thanks for your kind words!  Just keep working... I love the pieces you have posted, especially the brown yoga set! 
   
This printing process was pretty easy compared to 'professional' techniques.  I got stretcher bars from the local craft store which are normally used for stretching artist's canvas.  I got some nylon curtain sheer material large enough to staple onto one side of the assembled stretchers.  I stapled the fabric on in a way to make it taut, but not excessively so.  I used Duck tape to tape over the stapled frame, then created a 'well' with duct tape on both sides of the sheer around the inside.  Here are some pictures of the screen:
This view is from the top, the side that I will screen the gel through

This is the bottom, the side that covers the fabric

This is the squeegee I used to apply the gel

After 'preparing' the screen, I used a sharpie pen to trace the design onto the sheer.  Then, I painted around the design and filled in the background with acrylic house paint, applying the paint from the side where I will be screening, then propped up the screen on some pieces of 1" by 1" wood to allow it to dry.  The finished screen has openings where I will apply the bleach gel, and is solid to block the gel everywhere else.  I pinned my pre-dyed fabric on a padded board, stretching it slightly to make the surface smooth.  I placed the screen on the fabric.  Then I poured a small line of gelin the 'well' of one end of the screen.  Then, using a squeegee (not the window washing type, the screen-printing type), I spread the gel over the screen firmly from one end to another.  When I got to the other end, I used the squeegee to 'scoop' up the gel, brought it back to the original end, and swiped twice more.  Note:  If you didn't put enough gel on the first swipe, it's okay to add more to the well.  When I got done, I set the squeegee aside and carefully separated the screen from the fabric.  I then repeated the process for the other images.  Afterward, I gently washed off and dried the screen to remove the gel remaining, and also cleaned the squeegee gently as well.  I hung the fabric to dry, then washed the piece to remove the gel. 
This is soooo much neater than trying to use the chemicals normally used in screen-printing.  I don't plan to print large quantities, so the screen should last a long time.  Hope this helps!

Judy

   
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 09:46:56 AM »

Judy...What brand of dishwashing gel are you using? I went to Safeway and wasn't quite sure what to get. Is it the Electrosal?

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2007, 10:06:34 AM »

O.K. poked around and found my answer!
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2007, 01:39:29 AM »

As long as it has bleach as an ingredient, any brand will do.  I'm becoming more and more impressed with the results I get using the gel... much more consistent than trying to use bleach water.  The only other thing I have tried with this much success was discharge paste, which btw I tried on silk and it works!  But for screening or stamping, I'm sold on the dw gel! 

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2007, 05:00:10 AM »

Thanks Judy!
I am definately going to try my hand at discharging with the gel. But since I primarily work with silk, I am getting alittle ansty until the discharge paste arrives.

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2007, 01:41:24 AM »

BTW, thanks for the heads up about using discharge paste on silk!  Until you mentioned it, I thought there was no way to discharge on silk, but I started experimenting last weekend... so far, so good!

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 12:12:50 PM »

O.k did some experiments with the discharge paste. I also experimented with the bleach gel(dishwasher gel) but didn't like the results. Don't know if I was impatient or the gel just wasn't working(electrosal brand). How long should it take for the bleach to discharge? When I use a bleach pen on clothes to get stains out I usually see a pretty quick change.
Anyways...here's what I've with the discharge paste...



and the foam stamp I made...



It was done on generic black dyed muslin.  After doing these testers I fooled with thinner consistencies to get better penetration into through the fiber. I also decided to stamp and paint on the paste wh/ seemed to get  better coverage. One problem I am also running into is my iron is not steaming very well, so I will be getting a new one soon.

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2008, 01:22:58 AM »

O.k did some experiments with the discharge paste. I also experimented with the bleach gel(dishwasher gel) but didn't like the results. Don't know if I was impatient or the gel just wasn't working(electrosal brand). How long should it take for the bleach to discharge?

Nice work, Kathy!  My experience with dishwasher gel is that it seems to work better on fabric I have dyed.  When I was learning to use it last summer, my first attempt was on a cloth I had dyed using cerulean blue MX dye, dyed using LWI.  The discharge was almost to white.  So maybe that's the caveat, that it works better on hand dyed than on commercially dyed fabrics.  But I have also had good luck with discharge paste on commercially dyed fabric, so that means we have 2 methods to use which don't require bleach.  I have really gotten away from regular bleach discharging, primarily because I don't want to risk the damage it can do to the fibers, not to mention my lungs.  But bleach pen is I think a great way to be able to do detail work with less of the risk.  Thanks for posting your pix!

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2008, 03:37:37 AM »

I shoulda been more clear. I dyed the muslin. Doesn't matter anyway. I am fairly pleased with the results from the paste. There is no paranoia of bleaching myself or the clothes I am wearing ( I have a slight bleach phobia). Plus I like seeing the discharged area magically appear under the iron!

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