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jamn!
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« on: November 25, 2007, 04:52:27 AM »

Hi My name is Heidi and I am primarily a glass work artist.
I ventured into dyeing when I started serging silk into silk ribbons to use as necklaces with my lampwork beads and pendants.  I have used Jacquard acid dyes but was searching for a way to use fiber reactive dyes with silk.  I wanted to be able to use cotton thread instead of the MUCH costlier silk thread that I currently use.  Thanks for being here!

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 06:14:29 AM »

Silk dyes well with mx fiber reactive dyes. The cotton thread may come out a different shade or a slightly different color than the silk. I've seen a piece of raw silk come out orangy red from a black mx dye (don't know which), surprise!
I dye silk with soda ash and mx dyes (the usual ratios) or citric acid and mx dyes (1 teaspoon of citric of citric acid to 1 cup water). When I'm sewing on silk, I always use cotton thread.
Some people think that silk benefits from steaming with mx dyes; some people don't. I usually give my silk a shot in the microwave.

Here's a list for dyers:
http://list.emich.edu/~dyers/

Here's some sites for directions:
http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/2824960-AA.shtml
http://www.prochemical.com/directions.htm


Paula Burch's site is a wealth of info:
http://www.pburch.net/dyeing.shtml
She has a list for dyers too:
http://www.pburch.net/drupal/

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2007, 11:57:08 AM »

Thanks for the information! That should keep me busy for quite a while!

I tried cotton thread in the beginning but it wasn't taking the dye. I guess it could have had something coating the thread so maybe I will try another brand and see if it takes the dye!
I am now concerned with bleeding from the acid dyes. I am having issues with a few of the colors and would rather use MX dyes for colors that are bleeding!
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2007, 02:32:07 PM »

This thread company could help you with a good dyeable cotton thread; you could call them.
http://www.superiorthreads.com/

I have bought large cones of white cotton thread from this company:
http://store.atlantathread.com/

When shopping for thread locally, look for mercerized 100% cotton thread, at least all cotton thread.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2007, 01:11:40 AM »

I haven't sewn on silk, so I don't know what to tell you about the thread.  I will say that I like the results I get dyeing silk the way Dharma suggests, which is pre-soaking in vinegar, applying the dye (to tied or scrunched silk), then steaming in the microwave about 2 minutes... very easy, and I love the results.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2007, 03:05:56 AM »

If you want to dye cotton thread at the same time as silk, you cannot use acid as the auxiliary chemical. You have to use soda ash (or some other high-pH chemical) to dye cotton with fiber reactive dyes. Fortunately, the silk will dye perfectly well under the same circumstances as cotton, though it may become a little softer and a little bit less shiny. However, the premixed colors will come out more different on silk and cotton when used with soda ash than when used with vinegar or citric acid.

To get silk and cotton to dye the same color at the same time with Procion MX dyes, avoid using mixtures of colors, such as the zillion-and-one different premixed colors sold by most dyesellers. Stick to the unmixed single-hue Procion MX dyes, which are listed on my chart, Which Procion MX colors are pure, and which mixtures?.

You can combine these pure unmixed dye colors in LWI (see How to Do Low Water Immersion Dyeing), dyeing silk and cotton at the same time, and still get a good match. Here's a link to an old post at the Dye Forum on my site showing a rayon dress and a silk purse that I dyed to match in the same LWI dyebath: silk and rayon, dyed to match.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2007, 05:10:16 PM »

I agree with Paula about using soda ash to dye the whole thing at once with MX dyes.

I was also going to suggest that having the thread match the silk isn't the end of the world. If they are slightly off I don't think it will harm the work any, because the pendants have so many colors in them.
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